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'''Workshop on the Relationship Ontology'''
 
'''Workshop on the Relationship Ontology'''
  
The [http://ncbo.us National Center for Biomedical Ontology] will host a two-day workshop focused on the relationship between terms (classes) in ontologies.
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The [http://ncbo.us National Center for Biomedical Ontology] hosted a two-day workshop focused on the relationship between terms (classes) in ontologies.
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== Minutes, Notes and Presentation ==
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* [[Media:May 2008 RO meeting minutes v2.doc]]
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* [[OntologyRelationsMay19MeetingNotes]]
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* [[Media:ROMeetingNotesPhenoscape.doc]]
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* [[Media:relations_for_representing_developmental_anatomy.ppt]]
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* [[Media:regulates.ppt]]
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* [[Media:overlaps.ppt]]
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* [[Media:RO-denver-cjm.ppt]]
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* [[Media:dahdul-ROmeeting.ppt]]
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* [[Media:Fabian developmental relations.pdf]]
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* [[Media:Fabian develops_from.pdf]]
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* [[Media:melissa development examples.ppt]]
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* [[Media:Homology.ppt]]
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* [[Media:Hunter Epistemic relations.ppt]]
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* [[Media:Ruttenberg-ro.pdf]]
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* [[OntologyRelationsMeetingNotesCompiled]]
  
 
== Guidelines and Goals ==  
 
== Guidelines and Goals ==  
  
* Our over-arching guiding principle is to keep the meeting biologist driven. This means that any logical theories discussed must be kept:
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* Our over-arching guiding principle is to keep the Relations Ontology biology driven. This means that any relations proposed must be kept:
** simple
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** simple, with well-thought out definitions
** example-driven
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** example-driven, that is an instance-level definition must exist (see RO paper)
 
** expressed in a clear, consistent symbol-free syntax
 
** expressed in a clear, consistent symbol-free syntax
  
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** A release of the cross-product (xp) files is generated
 
** A release of the cross-product (xp) files is generated
 
** We will produce a new release of the RO
 
** We will produce a new release of the RO
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''Note: At least Alan Ruttenberg has expressed that these goals are too much to achieve in the time we have''
  
 
== Preparation ==  
 
== Preparation ==  
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* Nomi Harris and Chris Mungall are working to ensure that OBO-Edit2 will be fit to use during the workshop so that we can use it to immediately modify the RO
 
* Nomi Harris and Chris Mungall are working to ensure that OBO-Edit2 will be fit to use during the workshop so that we can use it to immediately modify the RO
 
   
 
   
== Agenda: 8:00AM-5:30PM Monday, May 19th 2008 ==
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== Agenda: 8:30AM-5:30PM Monday, May 19th 2008 ==
  
=== General (Barry/Chris) ===  
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=== 8:30-10:30am General (Barry/Chris/Mike) ===  
  
 
* review of principles
 
* review of principles
** all-some(time) (Barry)
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** all-some / time (Barry) [http://ontology.buffalo.edu/smith/ppt/BFO_RO/OBO_RO_May08.ppt Slides]
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** desired level of granularity (Barry/Mike)
 
* review of website, tracker (Chris)
 
* review of website, tracker (Chris)
 
** process for adding terms
 
** process for adding terms
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* cross-products
 
* cross-products
  
=== Development and anatomy (DavidOS) ===
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=== 10:30am-10:45am: Coffee ===
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=== 10:45am - 12:00 noon: Development and anatomy (DavidOS) ===
  
 
* stages and temporal relations
 
* stages and temporal relations
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** Interval calculus
 
** Interval calculus
 
** ZFA stages use case: start, end
 
** ZFA stages use case: start, end
* develops_from (Melissa)
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* develops_from  
 
* relations from CARO paper (Fabian)
 
* relations from CARO paper (Fabian)
 
* review biological_process_xp_cell (Chris/MikeB)
 
* review biological_process_xp_cell (Chris/MikeB)
* replaced_by - endochondral bone replaces cartilege (Wasila)
 
 
* agent_in - is it valid? "heart process" example - DavidH/Chris
 
* agent_in - is it valid? "heart process" example - DavidH/Chris
  
=== Biological qualities and phenotypes (Chris) ===
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=== 12:00 noon - 12:30: Lunch ===
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=== 12:30 - 2:30pm: Biological qualities and phenotypes (Chris/Werner) ===
  
 
* lacks_part (Werner)
 
* lacks_part (Werner)
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* relations between qualities, comparisons and abnormality
 
* relations between qualities, comparisons and abnormality
  
=== Spatial relations (Melissa/Suzi) ===
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=== 2:45 - 4pm: Spatial relations (Melissa/Suzi) ===
  
* surrounded_by
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*  RCC8-can we reuse? (Chris)
* overlaps - bone + joint use case (Melissa)
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* surrounded_by (Chris)
* connected_to - axon tracts and neuropil (fiat binary)
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* overlaps - bone + joint use case (Peter)
* attached_to - bone + bone use case (Melissa)
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* connected_to and attached_to (Wasila)
* RCC8 - can we just import directly?
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** bona fide vs fiat - when does it matter?
* bona fide vs fiat - when does it matter
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** Example: axon tracts and neuropil (fiat)
* spatial.obo
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** Example: tooth attachment use case (bona fide)
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* spatial.obo (Wasila)
  
=== Regulation (David/Tanya/Chris) ===
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=== 4:15 - 5:30pm: Regulation (David/Tanya/Chris) ===
  
 
* regulates, +, -
 
* regulates, +, -
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* [http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1888149&group_id=76834&atid=947684] [http://www.bioontology.org/wiki/index.php/RO:Main_Page#TAIR_Relations TAIR relations]
 
* [http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1888149&group_id=76834&atid=947684] [http://www.bioontology.org/wiki/index.php/RO:Main_Page#TAIR_Relations TAIR relations]
  
== Agenda: 8:00AM-3:30PM Tuesday, May 20th 2008 ==
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=== 5:30pm: Transportation to dinner ===
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== Agenda: 9:00AM-4:00PM Tuesday, May 20th 2008 ==
  
=== Evolutionary ===  
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=== 9:00-10:15am Evolutionary (Melissa, Wasila, Peter) ===  
  
 
* homologous_to & evo_derives_from
 
* homologous_to & evo_derives_from
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* ternary relations in RO: DavidS's use case (DavidOS/Chris)
  
=== Biochemical (Mike B) ===  
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=== 10:30am - noon Biochemical (Larry / Mike B) ===  
  
 
* pathways (BioPAX-OBO, AlanR)
 
* pathways (BioPAX-OBO, AlanR)
 
* review bp_xp_chebi (Bada)
 
* review bp_xp_chebi (Bada)
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* Molecular interactions and the PSI-MI relation(esque) terms. (Larry)
  
=== Epistemic (Larry) ===  
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=== 12:30pm - 2pm Epistemic (Larry) ===  
  
 
* supported_by et al
 
* supported_by et al
  
=== Logical/representation issues ===  
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=== 2:15pm - 4pm Other issues, and follow ups ===  
  
* FOL representations of RO (Thom, Fabian)
 
* RO and BFO
 
* OBO and OWL issues (Alan, Chris, Nigam)
 
* instance vs type level; punning vs separate IDs
 
 
* the time issue. OWL representation (Alan)
 
* the time issue. OWL representation (Alan)
* ternary relations in RO: DavidS's use case (DavidOS/Chris)
 
* Erick's list of meta-relations
 
 
* idiosyncratic relations in the FMA (Suzi/Nigam)
 
* idiosyncratic relations in the FMA (Suzi/Nigam)
  
== Dates, Hours, and Logistics ==
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== Logistics ==
 
 
*'''Monday and Tuesday, May 19-20, 2008'''
 
  
 
* This meeting will take place on the [http://www.uchsc.edu/anschutzmedicalcampus/ Anschutz medical Campus of the University of Colorado at Denver], probably in room 204 of the  [http://www.uchsc.edu/anschutzmedicalcampus/projects/nativehealth.htm Nighthorse Campbell building].  
 
* This meeting will take place on the [http://www.uchsc.edu/anschutzmedicalcampus/ Anschutz medical Campus of the University of Colorado at Denver], probably in room 204 of the  [http://www.uchsc.edu/anschutzmedicalcampus/projects/nativehealth.htm Nighthorse Campbell building].  
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* If you need advice or want to talk to someone regarding logistics, email [mailto:Kathy.R.Thomas@uchsc.edu Kathy Thomas] and mention the Relation Ontology expert meeting in May.
 
* If you need advice or want to talk to someone regarding logistics, email [mailto:Kathy.R.Thomas@uchsc.edu Kathy Thomas] and mention the Relation Ontology expert meeting in May.
  
== Invited Participants ==
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=== Attended (alphabetically) ===
=== Confirmed ===
 
 
# Mike Bada (host / Denver, CO)
 
# Mike Bada (host / Denver, CO)
 
# Tanya Berardini (TAIR / Stanford, CA)
 
# Tanya Berardini (TAIR / Stanford, CA)
# Bill Bug (BIRN / San Diego, CA)
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# Vinay Chaudhri (SRI / Menlo Park, CA)
 
# Werner Ceusters (ORG / Buffalo, NY)
 
# Werner Ceusters (ORG / Buffalo, NY)
# Wasila Dahdul (NESCENT)
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# Wasila Dahdul (Phenoscape/NESCENT)
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# Mary Dolan (MGI / Bar Harbor, ME)
 
# Melissa Haendel (ZFIN / Eugene, OR)
 
# Melissa Haendel (ZFIN / Eugene, OR)
# David Hill (MGD / Bar Harbor, ME)
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# David Hill (MGI / Bar Harbor, ME)
 
# Larry Hunter (host / Denver, CO)
 
# Larry Hunter (host / Denver, CO)
 
# Suzi Lewis (NCBO / Berkeley, CA)
 
# Suzi Lewis (NCBO / Berkeley, CA)
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# Peter Midford (Phenoscape/ NESCent)
 
# Chris Mungall (Flybase / Berkeley, CA)
 
# Chris Mungall (Flybase / Berkeley, CA)
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# Darren Natale (PRO / Georgetown, Washington, DC)
 
# Fabian Neuhaus (NIST / Washington, DC)
 
# Fabian Neuhaus (NIST / Washington, DC)
 
# David Osumi-Sutherland (FlyBase / Cambridge, UK)
 
# David Osumi-Sutherland (FlyBase / Cambridge, UK)
# Cornelius Rosse (FMA / Seattle, WA)
 
 
# Alan Ruttenberg (Science Commons / Cambridge, MA)
 
# Alan Ruttenberg (Science Commons / Cambridge, MA)
 
# Nigam Shah (NCBO / Stanford, CA)
 
# Nigam Shah (NCBO / Stanford, CA)
 
# Barry Smith (NCBO / Buffalo, NY)
 
# Barry Smith (NCBO / Buffalo, NY)
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# Karin Verspoor (host / Denver, CO)
  
 
=== Invited ===
 
=== Invited ===
 
# Thomas Bittner (ORG / Buffalo, NY)
 
# Thomas Bittner (ORG / Buffalo, NY)
 
# Waclaw Kusnierczyk (Bergen, Norway)
 
# Waclaw Kusnierczyk (Bergen, Norway)
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# Cornelius Rosse (FMA / Seattle, WA)
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# Bill Bug (BIRN / San Diego, CA)
  
 
== Background Material ==
 
== Background Material ==
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[http://www.bioontology.org/wiki/index.php/RO:Main_Page Relation Ontology Wiki]
  
 
[http://obofoundry.org/ro/ Relation Ontology Home ]
 
[http://obofoundry.org/ro/ Relation Ontology Home ]
  
 
[[RO:Main_Page | Current Proposals for new relations ]]
 
[[RO:Main_Page | Current Proposals for new relations ]]
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[http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1471-2105-7-S3-S5.pdf SMBM paper discussing the relations in the PASBio predicates]
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White paper  on the relations used in the AURA biology system [[media:AURA_relations.pdf]]

Latest revision as of 07:27, 16 November 2008

Workshop on the Relationship Ontology

The National Center for Biomedical Ontology hosted a two-day workshop focused on the relationship between terms (classes) in ontologies.

Minutes, Notes and Presentation

Guidelines and Goals

  • Our over-arching guiding principle is to keep the Relations Ontology biology driven. This means that any relations proposed must be kept:
    • simple, with well-thought out definitions
    • example-driven, that is an instance-level definition must exist (see RO paper)
    • expressed in a clear, consistent symbol-free syntax
  • The goals of this workshop are to develop the content of the relationship ontology. By the end of the meeting we hope to complete all of the following:
    • All outstanding items on the request tracking system are solved
    • All relations in ro_proposed are "blessed" and move into RO proper
    • A release of the cross-product (xp) files is generated
    • We will produce a new release of the RO

Note: At least Alan Ruttenberg has expressed that these goals are too much to achieve in the time we have

Preparation

  • The leader of each session topic should be prepared to provide a summary of the issues involved and the available choices to be decided upon
  • Leaders should recommend papers to read in preparation and send out PDFs for CS folks and biologistsd
  • Nomi Harris and Chris Mungall are working to ensure that OBO-Edit2 will be fit to use during the workshop so that we can use it to immediately modify the RO

Agenda: 8:30AM-5:30PM Monday, May 19th 2008

8:30-10:30am General (Barry/Chris/Mike)

  • review of principles
    • all-some / time (Barry) Slides
    • desired level of granularity (Barry/Mike)
  • review of website, tracker (Chris)
    • process for adding terms
  • review of current primary representation in .obo, .owl conversion (Chris)
  • ID policy (BFO), ontology lifecycle issues etc
  • cross-products

10:30am-10:45am: Coffee

10:45am - 12:00 noon: Development and anatomy (DavidOS)

  • stages and temporal relations
    • DavidOS/Fabian
    • Interval calculus
    • ZFA stages use case: start, end
  • develops_from
  • relations from CARO paper (Fabian)
  • review biological_process_xp_cell (Chris/MikeB)
  • agent_in - is it valid? "heart process" example - DavidH/Chris

12:00 noon - 12:30: Lunch

12:30 - 2:30pm: Biological qualities and phenotypes (Chris/Werner)

  • lacks_part (Werner)
  • inheres_in
    • relational qualities
      • towards relation
      • relational qualities and relations - what's the difference. lacks_part example
  • relations between qualities, comparisons and abnormality

2:45 - 4pm: Spatial relations (Melissa/Suzi)

  • RCC8-can we reuse? (Chris)
  • surrounded_by (Chris)
  • overlaps - bone + joint use case (Peter)
  • connected_to and attached_to (Wasila)
    • bona fide vs fiat - when does it matter?
    • Example: axon tracts and neuropil (fiat)
    • Example: tooth attachment use case (bona fide)
  • spatial.obo (Wasila)

4:15 - 5:30pm: Regulation (David/Tanya/Chris)

5:30pm: Transportation to dinner

Agenda: 9:00AM-4:00PM Tuesday, May 20th 2008

9:00-10:15am Evolutionary (Melissa, Wasila, Peter)

  • homologous_to & evo_derives_from
  • ternary relations in RO: DavidS's use case (DavidOS/Chris)

10:30am - noon Biochemical (Larry / Mike B)

  • pathways (BioPAX-OBO, AlanR)
  • review bp_xp_chebi (Bada)
  • Molecular interactions and the PSI-MI relation(esque) terms. (Larry)

12:30pm - 2pm Epistemic (Larry)

  • supported_by et al

2:15pm - 4pm Other issues, and follow ups

  • the time issue. OWL representation (Alan)
  • idiosyncratic relations in the FMA (Suzi/Nigam)

Logistics

  • If you need advice or want to talk to someone regarding logistics, email Kathy Thomas and mention the Relation Ontology expert meeting in May.

Attended (alphabetically)

  1. Mike Bada (host / Denver, CO)
  2. Tanya Berardini (TAIR / Stanford, CA)
  3. Vinay Chaudhri (SRI / Menlo Park, CA)
  4. Werner Ceusters (ORG / Buffalo, NY)
  5. Wasila Dahdul (Phenoscape/NESCENT)
  6. Mary Dolan (MGI / Bar Harbor, ME)
  7. Melissa Haendel (ZFIN / Eugene, OR)
  8. David Hill (MGI / Bar Harbor, ME)
  9. Larry Hunter (host / Denver, CO)
  10. Suzi Lewis (NCBO / Berkeley, CA)
  11. Peter Midford (Phenoscape/ NESCent)
  12. Chris Mungall (Flybase / Berkeley, CA)
  13. Darren Natale (PRO / Georgetown, Washington, DC)
  14. Fabian Neuhaus (NIST / Washington, DC)
  15. David Osumi-Sutherland (FlyBase / Cambridge, UK)
  16. Alan Ruttenberg (Science Commons / Cambridge, MA)
  17. Nigam Shah (NCBO / Stanford, CA)
  18. Barry Smith (NCBO / Buffalo, NY)
  19. Karin Verspoor (host / Denver, CO)

Invited

  1. Thomas Bittner (ORG / Buffalo, NY)
  2. Waclaw Kusnierczyk (Bergen, Norway)
  3. Cornelius Rosse (FMA / Seattle, WA)
  4. Bill Bug (BIRN / San Diego, CA)

Background Material

Relation Ontology Wiki

Relation Ontology Home

Current Proposals for new relations

SMBM paper discussing the relations in the PASBio predicates

White paper on the relations used in the AURA biology system media:AURA_relations.pdf